laara
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Post by laara on Sept 10, 2013 7:25:28 GMT -5
I'm hoping for some help here please. We have had Slappy now for almost 3 years and it has been a wonderful experience. I love him to bits and I think he is happy with us. As this has been great I have wanted another dog very much but financially couldn't do it. Fostering seemed to be a great solution and we now have our second foster dog. He is the one I need help with. He arrived on Friday nite and is a very nervous guy but is starting to warm up to us. He didn't eat for the first day he was with us but did have a huge poop when I took him for a walk. We don't have a fenced yard so walks are very regular and quite long to ensure the dogs get plenty of exercise and opportunity to pee and poop, which they both do. At his first foster home there were complaints of him pooping in the house, and this morning I woke up to 4 huge piles of poop in my living room, fortunately on the hardwood and not carpeting. My question is what can I do the prevent this, and how can I help my foster to learn this is not acceptable behaviour? Slappy has been great and I have never had to deal with this before. I'm thinking I will need to start crating him at nite but I'm not sure how amenable he will be to that, how can I make it a good experience as well? Thanks for your help, Lara PS, Just so you know, I didn't get angry or yell or anything at my foster, by the time I found the mess it was cold and so I think it was too late to really get across to him that I didn't like this. I did say "this is not good, no pooping in the house", in a stern voice though.
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laara
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Post by laara on Sept 10, 2013 11:06:27 GMT -5
Just got notice that my foster has hookworm. They are sending me meds for him so hopefully that will take care of it for him. Slappy gets DE everyday but I'm wondering if there is anything else I can do to help prevent him from picking this up from our Foster guy Moose.
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Post by johnandjenn on Sept 10, 2013 15:44:05 GMT -5
Every hound we've had has had a poop in the house.... D:
We usually use a cleaner with the enzyme remover. Haven't had any problems.
We are also fostering a dog and our agency requires us to keep him crated whilst we are away. We kept him crated for the first month while slept as well. brought him out frequently (just in case he wouldnt go bc he's nervous). After a few mishaps he settled right in. Now he sleeps in our room without a crate, haven't had an accident since the first week. (Been 2 months now).
We still keep a baby gate up at night so none of our hounds can wonder too far as well.
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sandysfarm
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Post by sandysfarm on Sept 11, 2013 22:05:10 GMT -5
I'm hoping for some help here please. We have had Slappy now for almost 3 years and it has been a wonderful experience. I love him to bits and I think he is happy with us. As this has been great I have wanted another dog very much but financially couldn't do it. Fostering seemed to be a great solution and we now have our second foster dog. He is the one I need help with. He arrived on Friday nite and is a very nervous guy but is starting to warm up to us. He didn't eat for the first day he was with us but did have a huge poop when I took him for a walk. We don't have a fenced yard so walks are very regular and quite long to ensure the dogs get plenty of exercise and opportunity to pee and poop, which they both do. At his first foster home there were complaints of him pooping in the house, and this morning I woke up to 4 huge piles of poop in my living room, fortunately on the hardwood and not carpeting. My question is what can I do the prevent this, and how can I help my foster to learn this is not acceptable behaviour? Slappy has been great and I have never had to deal with this before. I'm thinking I will need to start crating him at nite but I'm not sure how amenable he will be to that, how can I make it a good experience as well? Thanks for your help, Lara PS, Just so you know, I didn't get angry or yell or anything at my foster, by the time I found the mess it was cold and so I think it was too late to really get across to him that I didn't like this. I did say "this is not good, no pooping in the house", in a stern voice though. Do your dog and yourself a huge favour and don't say a word to him about his messes. If he receives ANY disapproval from you, he will focus on doing it away from your sight, and he'll be scared of you when you discover it because he'll associate you with your crossness - which is counter-productive to your being able to fix the problem. Try learning to manage him before he makes a mistake...either crate him at night or, easy too, box him gently into a large space beside you - on the floor - on your side of the bed. Lay in a nice deep amount of bedding for him and block his exit. A piece of foamcore works perfectly 4x8 or 2x4 - $3.00 at any art supply store - you can cut it more with an exacto knife if you want. If he wanders or gets out, tie a light cord to his collar and the other end can go atound your ankle. If he's waking you, get up, take him out, let him pee and then take him back to his mouse house with you. Don't talk to him at all just up, do, bed. I think you got lucky with the first dog and didn't realize we have to learn to manage our dogs so that they can be comfortable and succeed; not accidentally set them up to fail house training.
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moncheri
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Post by moncheri on Sept 12, 2013 4:38:02 GMT -5
Hi Laara, so sorry to hear the new foster has hooks - when I first read your post I was wondering why there would be 4 huge piles in just an overnight setting?! I know you feed Slappy raw, is that what the foster eats or is he sent to you with kibble? If it is kibble i am wondering if there is something in it that does not agree with him. For the meds for hooks, make sure it is Drontal Plus (I will try to dig up an older post about this) as from experience of many others on the forum is the only med to eradicate the nasty buggers. I too have never had the issue of pooping in the house with any of my girls - hopefully this will soon stop once you determine his pooping pattern. One would think if you are doing a nice walk around 9 or 10 pm that should be sufficient to empty out the tanks. Best of luck & keep us posted. Curious to know why he left the previous foster family - because of this issue?
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moncheri
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Post by moncheri on Sept 12, 2013 4:48:35 GMT -5
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Post by moncheri on Sept 12, 2013 18:19:34 GMT -5
Ok so my link did not work, but if you search back to July in the Medical section you will find it laara.
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laara
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Post by laara on Sept 15, 2013 14:11:47 GMT -5
Thank you all for the advice, Moose is being kept in his crate at nite and he is fine there. I am waiting on meds for his hookworm, unfortunately the group I am fostering him for is based in Michigan so they have mailed the medicine but I have to wait for it to get here. This morning we went out for our first walk, as usual it was bout 45min-1hr. Slappy pooped and peed, Moose just peed but as he had pooped last nite before bed I wasn't too worried. We got home and I started getting their food ready, Slappy eats first because it is his house, while he was eating Moose pooped in the living room! I think he had plenty of time on our walk but should I have kept him out longer? It was cleaned up and I fed him his breakfast and took him out again right after. I try to watch him for signs and as I said walks are frequent and fairly long here but there was no sign that I noticed today, it was almost like he was waiting to get home.? As far as food goes, he was sent with a bag of low-cal kibble as he was about 12lbs overweight, he wouldn't eat the kibble that was sent so I tried him with a couple other kinds but he wouldn't eat. After 2 days with no food I gave him some raw and he ate that no problem. I'm wondering if he sees Slappy eating raw and thinks he will wait for the 'good stuff'? I have contacted the organization and let them know what was happening so for now I have some raw that I got from work that I am feeding him but I can't afford to feed him raw and don't know if they will want to spend that kind of money as it is quite expensive. I'm not sure all the details about his first foster home, just that he was pooping in their house and also that they were grossly overfeeding him, which is why he now needs to loose some weight. I know he was eating kibble at the first home because they were giving him 8 cups a day.
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Post by Heather (& KC) on Sept 16, 2013 6:38:30 GMT -5
8 cups? That's got to be two times what he should be having. Ugh. Okay, I'll focus.
I'll ditto on Sandysfarm about how you react. I also think the meds will make a big difference. I don't know if this will help but I've trained both my boys do to their thing at home in the yard rather than on walks. I didn't want a boy dog marking at every horizontal so I started this with Max. Walks are for exercise so they go out before and right after (because it gets things moving). Mr Max never went on walks. "We" have been a little more lax with Thunder and he will go periodically on the walk because we need him to go on a leash at the cottage. Long story but I'm wondering if you shouldn't go in the yard with him without Slappy (perhaps while Slappy is eating), give him some extra long leash for privacy (I know, lol) and see if he'll go outside...then praise him endlessly!! Good luck. I know this has got to be perplexing.
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Post by luvastorm on Oct 27, 2013 16:33:25 GMT -5
Hopefully by now he's been treated with the Drontal Plus and the hookworms are gone. If you want to keep them gone, put him on INTERCEPTOR, the only med. that treats a variety of worms, but especially hookworm.
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