quietstorm
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Post by quietstorm on Aug 1, 2009 6:33:17 GMT -5
I thought it would be neat to have a poll and see just how the DE is working out at the kennel - from what I have heard so far, it is definitely helping. I'm a numbers person so I thought a poll would put it all in perspective and give everyone an idea as to the efficacy (or not) of the DE. You can answer up to 4 times for those multi hound owners with multiple answers. Heather said the DE started being used around April 15th so I gave April 30th as the dividing line between dogs who were treated with DE and those who weren't. Ranger is a pre-DE dog and he was full of worms. Force is post DE and he was clear. I won't lock the poll as I think it would be interesting to keep seeing the results of the new pups! ;D
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rathma
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Post by rathma on Aug 4, 2009 17:59:37 GMT -5
Balue was a before d.e. boy and had worms, Burner was an after d.e. boy and had nothing I use d.e. everyday for all of my dogs! o.k. - who's next?
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Post by Caleen D on Aug 5, 2009 9:06:27 GMT -5
Both of mine came home after April 30th, and they both had worms. Shadow had been there since December though, so maybe he had them all along, I dunno if that makes a difference.
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Post by strydersmom on Aug 5, 2009 9:12:04 GMT -5
Cain was before April and now DE is a daily staple in my household as he came home with hookworm and after a clean run in May, both boys showed positive in June. Stryder is back to himself (stool wise) and they'll both have stool samples next week after a month back on the DE.
Caleend - what kind of worms did Shadow have? Apparently for several kinds it takes at least 30 days to wipe out the cycle so there is definitly a chance he just hadn't been on it long enough before coming home.
Very happy to hear this is now being used with the hounds at the kennel.
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Post by tinastroops on Aug 5, 2009 10:21:51 GMT -5
Good post Pauline! 3 of my 5 hounds came from GRA and all pre DE and no one ever came home with worms.
We do use DE now on everyone (except Cyah) and spray the yard down monthly becuase of the dog sitting we do.
Melissa, your right, a 30 days cycle is needed for certain worms, "Since most insects have a laying cycle of 7 to 21 days, we recommend treating inside the home for at least 30 days for best effectiveness."
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Post by Caleen D on Aug 5, 2009 18:34:04 GMT -5
Cain was before April and now DE is a daily staple in my household as he came home with hookworm and after a clean run in May, both boys showed positive in June. Stryder is back to himself (stool wise) and they'll both have stool samples next week after a month back on the DE. Caleend - what kind of worms did Shadow have? Apparently for several kinds it takes at least 30 days to wipe out the cycle so there is definitly a chance he just hadn't been on it long enough before coming home. Very happy to hear this is now being used with the hounds at the kennel. He and Joe both had roundworms. I'm certainly not a detractor of DE, just sayin that both my boys still had some little nasties when I got them home. Nothing a deworming didn't cure
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Post by kateandkurt on Aug 9, 2009 18:58:23 GMT -5
Quick question for the DE users. Rebel is one of the post-DE dogs from the kennel, and when we adopted him in late June we had a fecal sample done at the vet a few days later and it came back clean. We started feeding him DE with his meals twice a day starting July 11th, and then about three weeks later we started noticing worms in his stool--most of them dead but occasionally there was a live one. I've looked up whips, hooks, tapes, and roundworms on google, and the best I can tell they look like either whips or roundworms, although apparently adult whips are microscopic, so I'm guessing it's the latter. I thought about posting a picture but didn't want to make anyone have an accident on their keyboard Rebel is our first dog, so we're not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Does this mean that the DE is in fact flushing the worms out of his system? I noticed Strydersmom said it can take up to 30 days to cover the lifecycle for some worms, so should we just be patient and expect it to clear up, or do we need to take him to the vet for deworming meds?
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dsm
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Post by dsm on Aug 12, 2009 12:14:05 GMT -5
I was quite curious about DE, so tried to find some hard scientific evidence regarding control of internal parasites. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything to support that. My vet is open to alterative methods as well, and also came up no evidence to support the claim that it helps with control of internal parasites. There are studies that confirm effectiveness for external type parasites (IE: fleas, grain bugs, etc), but the few studies I've seen regarding internal parasites have deemed it to have no effect. Granted these were studies on internal parasites in goats, sheep and cows, so it would be interesting to know how similar those are to the internal parasites we see in dogs. The only concern that was noted was of inhalation, but aside from that, there don't appear to be any negative effects. I guess I'd summarize by saying perhaps be cautious if you do have an infected dog and not automatically assume this is a reliable treatment.
On a personal note, I have used it to dust the entrance to yellow jacket nest hidden in my eave, and it appears to have worked for that
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moncheri
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Post by moncheri on Aug 12, 2009 21:24:18 GMT -5
Chicky came home pre-April 30 and although 2 stool samples were negative, there was clear evidence of tape worm (due to the nature of the tape's cycle it often will not show positive). Anyways after a good course of worming from my vet, Chicky is in the clear!
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monique
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Post by monique on Oct 18, 2009 16:35:20 GMT -5
I finally got all the results back from stool samples I brought over weeks ago (the vet's office misplaced two of them so it took a while!); I adopted Leo in September and he is parasite/flea/worm-free. But my sister adopted a greyhound in August who had both fleas and hookworms. It might depend where the dogs come from -- for example some racing kennels might be better than others, or some areas of the country maybe, I don't know. (Leo came from Birmingham, Alabama).
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Post by luvastorm on Oct 20, 2009 19:27:57 GMT -5
Would DE work on CATS?? Two of our four are hunters and we're always trying to shove tape worm pills down them - at the risk of our fingers.
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booboobunny
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Post by booboobunny on Oct 28, 2009 23:21:19 GMT -5
Virgil and Flash's stool samples came back negative for worms (that was a little over a week ago). We adopted them at the end of September of this year. Their poops are still soft, but are getting better now that we have them on the Kirkland Chicken kibble. I keep checking their poop, but haven't seen anything visual, so we're hoping that things will become more solid as the days go by.
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